tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post3989144239225728741..comments2024-03-29T03:42:52.885-04:00Comments on Supernatural Snark: Fangirling: A Discussion and Update on ICED/BURNED by Karen Marie MoningJennyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14199685365145765394noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-29345946599439515042015-02-11T14:58:23.454-05:002015-02-11T14:58:23.454-05:00The beginning is slow but worth the ride. The boo...The beginning is slow but worth the ride. The book itself is great. There are times I am not sure where KMM is going with the relationships but I figure in the end it will all make sence. The whole Jo thing does raise my blood pressure for the simple fact that Ryodan is not discreet regarding his sexual wants/needs in front of Dani knowing how she feels about protecting her friend. A man of his years and experience, you would think, would be more discreet. Carlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01152269845930774913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-46172115786444511442013-07-11T01:40:52.133-04:002013-07-11T01:40:52.133-04:00I kind of want to scream right now. And maybe sma...I kind of want to scream right now. And maybe smack myself a time or two. I STILL have not read this! It's sitting in plain site, just WAITING to be picked up but I haven't been able to fit it in. When I decide to pick up non-review books they are usually light reads. But I WILL read this soon(ish). I WILL. <br />The fact that the next book isn't coming out for ages has me thinking that maybe it's NOT so bad that I've waited. Having the long wait for the next book will be torture. I can't remember what people have said, does this book have a cliffhanger? If it has a good conclusion then I want to read it soonish, but if it has a cliffhanger than waiting is best. KMM has THE WORST CLIFFHANGERS in her books!Candacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01701325312535440179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-45364084203350658392013-07-08T23:45:52.826-04:002013-07-08T23:45:52.826-04:00tbh the age squickyness (a totally technical term)...tbh the age squickyness (a totally technical term) is the only reason why I haven't read this one yet. It just sounded so bad! Plus even though I did grow to love Dani, she totally annoyed me as well. But after reading your thoughts I REALLY think I'll have to pick this one up. Perhaps I'll wait until closer to the 2nd book's release, though, since it's been a while since I finished the Fever books.<br /><br />I also totally love the idea of spoiler/discussion posts like this one, because sometimes there's a lot of fangirling and talking I want to do about books, but the things just don't fit in a review.Ashley @ Book Labyrinthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02395484656811182553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-19961249962976357452013-07-08T17:07:10.374-04:002013-07-08T17:07:10.374-04:00The only thing I love more than incoherent fangirl...The only thing I love more than incoherent fangirling is eloquent fangirling, and you have mastered the art! :-) I've already been convinced by you and Heidi that I need to catch up on the Fever series, and specifically ICED, but this post is making it even harder to be a good girl and wait until my review copies are read to indulge in a binge series read. I must meet Ryodan NOW! :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-72239223720538795612013-07-08T10:27:55.498-04:002013-07-08T10:27:55.498-04:00Don't hurt me but I have not read this book ye...Don't hurt me but I have not read this book yet. *ducks from food* I will read it. I just finish the other last book, and I liked it. A little disappointed in how it ended. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06256994715274614059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-71735197081841717352013-07-07T15:51:27.056-04:002013-07-07T15:51:27.056-04:00Oh Jenny! You've found out so many important g...Oh Jenny! You've found out so many important goodies! I'm thrilled to hear Ryodan is NOT Dani's father and that she might be 17 in the next book *phew!* You make so many good points in this post. Ones I wholeheartedly agree with, as you know from our countless emails back and forth, lol! Ugh, Jo *spits in disgust* I'm sorry, I still can't stomach those two together. She knows Ryodan thinks of Dani in the long term and I'm a little worried she might try something to block that. Like a Fiona move. <br /><br />Now that I'm reminded of Iced again I'm ticked off all over that we have to wait so long for the release of Burned!!! I need it IMMEDIATELY IF NOT SOONER!!! *takes a calm cooling breath* Brilliant post, Jenny!! ;)Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682335183798720529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-57458386956214954782013-07-07T15:25:56.935-04:002013-07-07T15:25:56.935-04:00I feel the exact same way you do! I'm glad I&#...I feel the exact same way you do! I'm glad I'm not the only one either.. I was starting to feel like maybe I was the oddball out since so many people seem to be accusing KMM of pedophilia type writing - which I in now way saw. Yes there were some innuendos from Ryodan's team, BUT he squashed them and in my opinion, he's done his best to protect her - while still using her for his own interests of course (which hasn't included sex, the most important point!)<br /><br />I am sort of rooting for Dani and Dancer, I love Dancer so much. But, I like you, think she will end up with Ryodan in the future. <br /><br />I also agree with you (and KMM)about Christian. I mean geez, cut the man a LITTLE slack he's turning into a death-by-sex fae prince!! I think anyone in his position would have a little bit of weakness on control - which is what makes him so dangerous for Dani, even though so far he's trying to protect her too. I really hope he's either "cured" somehow or is able to keep a human part of himself while he is a prince. So far, we don't really have any way of comparing a human turned death-by-sex fae to the princes who originated Unseelie in the first place - so my hope is Christian doesn't turn out EXACTLY like them. <br /><br />I'm a little bummed KMM is thinking of combining them - simple because I want as many books as possible!! :D (Greedy I know, but what fan isn't?) :D <br /><br />Thanks for a great discussion! April @ My Shelf Confessionshttp://www.myshelfconfessions.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-52205025040661437482013-07-06T11:06:58.902-04:002013-07-06T11:06:58.902-04:00YAY EUNICE!!! I'm so glad you're reading t...YAY EUNICE!!! I'm so glad you're reading the Fever series, definitely best to read those first because there are major spoilers in Iced for them. Are you on Dreamfever then? You'll definitely want Shadowfever on hand, there's the cliffhanger to end all cliffhangers at the end of that one:)Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14199685365145765394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-88093361923727577452013-07-06T11:05:06.822-04:002013-07-06T11:05:06.822-04:00Me too Mary. Without hesitation. I've already ...Me too Mary. Without hesitation. I've already told Kevin it would happen and he was all WTF? I just told him sorry but it couldn't be helped:)<br /><br />The Jo relationship really bothered me as well because I so want him just for Dani, but obviously it would be weird and creepy if he was waiting for her and Ryodan is just not the type of man to wait. I'm excited to see how KMM will get them there (and get Jo the hell out of the way!)Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14199685365145765394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-50789159403296440932013-07-06T11:02:59.043-04:002013-07-06T11:02:59.043-04:00Right? I had to stop myself from writing any more ...Right? I had to stop myself from writing any more about this book, there's just so much to say! I could have launched into a whole "I want Jo away from Ryodan" diatribe, but I'm beyond excited that she's going to be 17 in Burned. Maybe Jo will get the boot then. I do hope she keeps Burned/Flayed 2 books instead of combining them into one though.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14199685365145765394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-89145128011789787352013-07-06T10:59:19.656-04:002013-07-06T10:59:19.656-04:00I felt the same way Maja! That first scene when sh...I felt the same way Maja! That first scene when she walks in them made my whole body shudder and I had to set the book down and walk away I was so upset by it. I just sort of tucked that image away in the back of my mind and tried to remind myself it wasn't possible for him to be with Dani, but that only worked some of the time. I totally hear you on the jealousy on behalf of the characters, I turned green every time Jo was mentioned and I may have wished violence on her:)Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14199685365145765394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-59679184469994903982013-07-06T10:56:42.537-04:002013-07-06T10:56:42.537-04:00Barrons is in it oh so briefly, but trust in Ryoda...Barrons is in it oh so briefly, but trust in Ryodan Keertana, he won't let you down! It's fun to see the similarities between him and Barrons, but it's even more fun to see their differences. Ryodan might be even more alpha than Barrons and I loved every second of him:)Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14199685365145765394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-74035053798043182402013-07-06T10:55:25.402-04:002013-07-06T10:55:25.402-04:00There were a lot of conflicting opinions when it f...There were a lot of conflicting opinions when it first came out since Dani is 14 and Ryodan, Christian and Dancer were all older (2 of them immortal), but I think a lot of it comes from the fact that people wanted a romance like the one between Mac and Barrons, and obviously with Dani's age that wasn't going to happen in this book. KMM's said repeatedly she's headed there though, so I can't wait to see what's in store for us when Dani's older:)Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14199685365145765394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-24155635148336985592013-07-06T10:52:01.380-04:002013-07-06T10:52:01.380-04:00DON'T BE SCARED TANJA! Trust in KMM, she handl...DON'T BE SCARED TANJA! Trust in KMM, she handles everything well and she will make you love Dani. You'll meet Dani and Ryodan in the Fever series eventually, but they shine in Iced:)Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14199685365145765394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-66309406313242847062013-07-06T10:51:09.382-04:002013-07-06T10:51:09.382-04:00Yes to Ash Shirley! I totally fangirl over those b...Yes to Ash Shirley! I totally fangirl over those books as well. Ash is definitely girlish giggle-worthy:)Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14199685365145765394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-19549024290763376672013-07-06T10:50:11.879-04:002013-07-06T10:50:11.879-04:00Did you read it? I definitely wished she was older...Did you read it? I definitely wished she was older right up until I read it, and then it just worked for me. I'm THRILLED she's going to be older in the next book, but I liked the way KMM handled everything in this one:)Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14199685365145765394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-73997559094384754742013-07-06T10:49:25.897-04:002013-07-06T10:49:25.897-04:00YES! *high five for Ryodan* I really liked Dancer ...YES! *high five for Ryodan* I really liked Dancer too, but I'm Ryodan all the way:) I'm attempting to patiently wait for April, but it's a struggle, I just love him so much.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14199685365145765394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-72077776741574887752013-07-06T10:48:15.695-04:002013-07-06T10:48:15.695-04:00IT'S SO GOOD!!!! Have you read the Fever serie...IT'S SO GOOD!!!! Have you read the Fever series? If not, definitely start there as there are MAJOR spoilers in ICED for those books, but you would still understand the story if you started with this one.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14199685365145765394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-78044532681661481432013-07-06T10:47:47.453-04:002013-07-06T10:47:47.453-04:00Ohh, Jenny! This is a fantastic post, although I s...Ohh, Jenny! This is a fantastic post, although I skimmed some of it because I'm afraid I'd get spoiled, I haven't read Iced yet. But from the parts that I've read I took notes on some factors that would be really helpful when I started to read the series again, I'm actually waiting for the next two books before starting Iced. Hahaha. But wow, I can see your passion on this series. I hope I could make something like this someday, I'm pretty lazy and my English isn't really that great. Haha. Anyhow, thanks so much for sharing this wonderful post. :DEunicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15149413249084973336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-90909311786550174652013-07-06T10:00:47.608-04:002013-07-06T10:00:47.608-04:00I'd totally walk upstairs at Ryodan's nod....I'd totally walk upstairs at Ryodan's nod. Sure, it irked me because I *knew* Dani will EVENTUALLY be with him but he's a sexual being and needs that physical relationship. Sure, Dani's a more mature 14 but that thought still squicks me out. Ryodan's such a bad ass and I love him so very much. ALL THE FEELS for this series!! ALL OF THEM, JENNY!!Mary @ BookSwarmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04099395167194720599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-28672271990818270852013-07-06T08:30:58.496-04:002013-07-06T08:30:58.496-04:00Can I print out this post and hang it on my wall??...Can I print out this post and hang it on my wall?? Yes please:) <br /><br />You know how much I love ICED and just basically all things that come out of KMM's head. Many people had issues with Dani being 14 - I didn't so much as I was hoping for more romance. But that was all the reasons why I wanted her to be older. Because she definitely sounds much more mature than any other 14 year old out there. Given her upbringing it totally makes all kind of sense. <br /><br />and yes, Jo and Ryodan's relation irked me, but on the other hand KMM is totally right. We are defined by "normal" relationships and honestly nothing about Barrons and Ryodan is any kind of normal. Still, Jo and Ry have a normal "´physical relationship which exists also outside of KMM worlds! <br /><br />I could go on and on.. I definitely could talk about KMM, ICED and her books forever° Dannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05998128531860725536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-79578822007453341842013-07-06T06:50:23.755-04:002013-07-06T06:50:23.755-04:00You've made such excellent points, Jenny, and ...You've made such excellent points, Jenny, and you explained them so well, which I admire. And I even agree with you 100%. Dani's age didn't bother me in the least, for all the same reasons, although I didn't articulate them that clearly, not even in my head.<br /><br />What DID bother me, though, is the whole Jo thing. I realize it's my fault, and I AM a bit stuck on those romance cliches from the 90's, I'm well aware of that. But I get jealous on behalf of the characters I love, even when there's only a promise of a relationship, and unfortunately, it's not something I can push myself past. Call it a personal flaw, but it is what it is. <br /><br />Hopefully I'll go back to the series once the air clears.Maja (The Nocturnal Library)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14276646316400863181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-73496809591243289672013-07-06T06:10:43.773-04:002013-07-06T06:10:43.773-04:00I still have to read this, Jenny! I know! I don...I still have to read this, Jenny! I know! I don't know how much I'll like this since Barron's isn't in it, but I guess I'll have to join Team Ryodan! ;)Keertanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01071392026876644282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-86586961434725669532013-07-06T05:35:30.904-04:002013-07-06T05:35:30.904-04:00Just as the first commenter, haha. I had no idea w...Just as the first commenter, haha. I had no idea what KMM books hold in themselves and I'm intrigued after all that fangirling of yours. I have heard great things about Mac's love interest and basically everyone's telling me to read this series. I know this is like a spin-off of sorts so I skimmed your thoughts a little, but this inappropriate talk cracked me up haha. It's wonderful to see such hope for a pair of non-lovers and I hope you'll get your chance to see them grow into lover one day. *fingers crossed*Siirihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18265532869057616598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6907235505822471522.post-77166476088502044582013-07-06T05:07:55.742-04:002013-07-06T05:07:55.742-04:00I have no idea who Dani and Ryodan are. Well consi...I have no idea who Dani and Ryodan are. Well considering that I'm still at the first book I need to move on with that series. But she is 14!! I'm scared of reading this now. Great post Jenny :)Tanja - Tanychyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15084789780467257259noreply@blogger.com